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		<title>By: Gavin Blue</title>
		<link>http://gavinblue.com/blog/archives/736/comment-page-1#comment-734</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Jennifer,

Basically you have given away 60 of your best images to Tourism Australia and any other third party that Tourism Australia would like to give the images to.

The terms and conditions have been changed so now you can still actually use the images. The previous outrageous terms and conditions didn&#039;t even allow you to use your own images.

It is very interesting that TA didn&#039;t check that the child was model released. The T&amp;C do say that basically you are liable if anything arises.

This is a ridiculous situation that Tourism Australia has created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Jennifer,</p>
<p>Basically you have given away 60 of your best images to Tourism Australia and any other third party that Tourism Australia would like to give the images to.</p>
<p>The terms and conditions have been changed so now you can still actually use the images. The previous outrageous terms and conditions didn&#8217;t even allow you to use your own images.</p>
<p>It is very interesting that TA didn&#8217;t check that the child was model released. The T&#038;C do say that basically you are liable if anything arises.</p>
<p>This is a ridiculous situation that Tourism Australia has created.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Rayner</title>
		<link>http://gavinblue.com/blog/archives/736/comment-page-1#comment-733</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Rayner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my photos was included in the 4 page advertising feature in the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age and I can tell you that nobody contacted me to check that the picture I entered (of a child) had been model released.  

I just checked out the State and Territory finalists and as I am not one of them I am wondering if I have given 60 of my best images away for nothing.  When you say the T&amp;C have been changed so that Tourism Australia no longer own the rights to images but instead have a non-exclusive worldwide licence to use them, does this mean I can sell my own images on postcards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my photos was included in the 4 page advertising feature in the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age and I can tell you that nobody contacted me to check that the picture I entered (of a child) had been model released.  </p>
<p>I just checked out the State and Territory finalists and as I am not one of them I am wondering if I have given 60 of my best images away for nothing.  When you say the T&amp;C have been changed so that Tourism Australia no longer own the rights to images but instead have a non-exclusive worldwide licence to use them, does this mean I can sell my own images on postcards?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Bower</title>
		<link>http://gavinblue.com/blog/archives/736/comment-page-1#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Bower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, the latest gov&#039;t run competition, the NSW http://www.parliamentaryphotoprize.com.au/ seems to have similar questionably vague T&amp;C. 

&quot;Copyright: Photographers retain copyright in their photographs. However submission of an entry gives to the New South Wales Parliament and the organising committee permission without any fee to exhibit the finalists’ works at the New South Wales Parliament and at any other venue within New South Wales to which the exhibition is transferred during the 12 months after the closing date for entries. Submission of an entry also gives the New South Wales Parliament and the organising committee a non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable permission to reproduce finalists’ photographs without fee and without payment to any featured person for the purposes of marketing and promoting the competition, the exhibition, and any future New South Wales Parliamentary Photographic Prize or similar competition. This permission extends to publication and reproduction for the above purposes in the media, on catalogues, posters, postcards, publications, on the internet (including on the competition website and the Parliamentary website), in any New South Wales Parliamentary publication, and in any other publications (printed or digital) including newspapers, magazines and journals. Where possible, photographers will receive credits with each use.&quot;

Another blogger is chasing up in response to it. His thoughts/enquiries can be found here:

http://gtvone.com/2010/06/17/nsw-parliamentary-plein-air-photographic-prize/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, the latest gov&#8217;t run competition, the NSW <a href="http://www.parliamentaryphotoprize.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.parliamentaryphotoprize.com.au/</a> seems to have similar questionably vague T&amp;C. </p>
<p>&#8220;Copyright: Photographers retain copyright in their photographs. However submission of an entry gives to the New South Wales Parliament and the organising committee permission without any fee to exhibit the finalists’ works at the New South Wales Parliament and at any other venue within New South Wales to which the exhibition is transferred during the 12 months after the closing date for entries. Submission of an entry also gives the New South Wales Parliament and the organising committee a non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable permission to reproduce finalists’ photographs without fee and without payment to any featured person for the purposes of marketing and promoting the competition, the exhibition, and any future New South Wales Parliamentary Photographic Prize or similar competition. This permission extends to publication and reproduction for the above purposes in the media, on catalogues, posters, postcards, publications, on the internet (including on the competition website and the Parliamentary website), in any New South Wales Parliamentary publication, and in any other publications (printed or digital) including newspapers, magazines and journals. Where possible, photographers will receive credits with each use.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another blogger is chasing up in response to it. His thoughts/enquiries can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://gtvone.com/2010/06/17/nsw-parliamentary-plein-air-photographic-prize/" rel="nofollow">http://gtvone.com/2010/06/17/nsw-parliamentary-plein-air-photographic-prize/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Blue</title>
		<link>http://gavinblue.com/blog/archives/736/comment-page-1#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well who can be surprised with this?

Today there is a 4 page advertising feature for Tourism Australia using the images from the Nothing Like Australia Campaign.

There are girls in bikinis, children, plenty of adults, aboriginals, national parks and private properties. Are they all model released?

G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well who can be surprised with this?</p>
<p>Today there is a 4 page advertising feature for Tourism Australia using the images from the Nothing Like Australia Campaign.</p>
<p>There are girls in bikinis, children, plenty of adults, aboriginals, national parks and private properties. Are they all model released?</p>
<p>G</p>
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		<title>By: John Nalder</title>
		<link>http://gavinblue.com/blog/archives/736/comment-page-1#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>John Nalder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 10:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have looked at many of the some 29,000 + images and it would appear that
appropriate signed release documentation would apply to the content of many of these images.

There may be a large portion of these images which were shot before the TA  promotion, and thus would not address the issues of an image being gripped by this commercial campaign.

Photographers who have not obtained the relative release documentation where applicable, for the content of the image leave themselves open to possible legal action down the track. TA should not allow their campaign to expose inexperienced photographers to this situation and should test the waters on many of the images as to compliance.

There is no doubt that all of the finally accepted images will be incorporated in to one massive photo bank for continual use by TA and other parties while generating a fee income to TA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have looked at many of the some 29,000 + images and it would appear that<br />
appropriate signed release documentation would apply to the content of many of these images.</p>
<p>There may be a large portion of these images which were shot before the TA  promotion, and thus would not address the issues of an image being gripped by this commercial campaign.</p>
<p>Photographers who have not obtained the relative release documentation where applicable, for the content of the image leave themselves open to possible legal action down the track. TA should not allow their campaign to expose inexperienced photographers to this situation and should test the waters on many of the images as to compliance.</p>
<p>There is no doubt that all of the finally accepted images will be incorporated in to one massive photo bank for continual use by TA and other parties while generating a fee income to TA.</p>
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		<title>By: William Long</title>
		<link>http://gavinblue.com/blog/archives/736/comment-page-1#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>William Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 23:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirk - to respond to your comments.  Yes the promoter needs Terms and Conditions, but lets remember that its a &quot;competition&quot;, or its meant to be.  Entering a competition should not mean that you have to relinquish the copyright of your entry.  Doesnt matter if you&#039;re a pro or an enthusiast.   Same principle applies in my opinion.


Gavin - to clarify what you said.   The major changes are that you retain the copyright if you enter.  Thats a point of principle I put to them representing both photographic associations.  Sure I would have preferred that TA had moved a bit further and accepted the normally acceptable Photo Comp Terms and Conditions, that all finalists and winners would grant a non exclusive licence to TA.   Instead all entrants have to accept that by entering that they grant TA a non exclusive licence.   Personally I see that as disappointing, but still a step in the right direction.  

And its a shame that an organisation as important as TA feel the need to depend on such overwhelmingly unfair T&amp;C to produce a campaign.   Clearly money wasnt an issue here as the amount of entries although is approaching 30,000; that amount in dollars is probably just a few of the celebrity appearance fee, or less than a month of just one tv channels media advertising costs.

So in some ways, I believe that common sense has prevailed, and by working together, not just associations and their representatives, but vast numbers of enthusiasts from forums, clubs and individually have all supported the communications and negotiations with TA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk &#8211; to respond to your comments.  Yes the promoter needs Terms and Conditions, but lets remember that its a &#8220;competition&#8221;, or its meant to be.  Entering a competition should not mean that you have to relinquish the copyright of your entry.  Doesnt matter if you&#8217;re a pro or an enthusiast.   Same principle applies in my opinion.</p>
<p>Gavin &#8211; to clarify what you said.   The major changes are that you retain the copyright if you enter.  Thats a point of principle I put to them representing both photographic associations.  Sure I would have preferred that TA had moved a bit further and accepted the normally acceptable Photo Comp Terms and Conditions, that all finalists and winners would grant a non exclusive licence to TA.   Instead all entrants have to accept that by entering that they grant TA a non exclusive licence.   Personally I see that as disappointing, but still a step in the right direction.  </p>
<p>And its a shame that an organisation as important as TA feel the need to depend on such overwhelmingly unfair T&amp;C to produce a campaign.   Clearly money wasnt an issue here as the amount of entries although is approaching 30,000; that amount in dollars is probably just a few of the celebrity appearance fee, or less than a month of just one tv channels media advertising costs.</p>
<p>So in some ways, I believe that common sense has prevailed, and by working together, not just associations and their representatives, but vast numbers of enthusiasts from forums, clubs and individually have all supported the communications and negotiations with TA.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Blue</title>
		<link>http://gavinblue.com/blog/archives/736/comment-page-1#comment-674</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 09:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that common sense hasn&#039;t prevailed.

Tourism Australia changed the T&amp;C from a rights grab to a non-exclusive worldwide licence in perpetuity with the bonus of being able to pass the images  on to third parties.

The major change is you are able to use your own prints. I don&#039;t think that is the biggest of victories.

Thanks Kirk for your comment.

Yes the promoter does need such clauses to protect itself while it is building a free photolibrary while pretending to run a competition. 

G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that common sense hasn&#8217;t prevailed.</p>
<p>Tourism Australia changed the T&#038;C from a rights grab to a non-exclusive worldwide licence in perpetuity with the bonus of being able to pass the images  on to third parties.</p>
<p>The major change is you are able to use your own prints. I don&#8217;t think that is the biggest of victories.</p>
<p>Thanks Kirk for your comment.</p>
<p>Yes the promoter does need such clauses to protect itself while it is building a free photolibrary while pretending to run a competition. </p>
<p>G</p>
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		<title>By: kirk bushell</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk bushell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 04:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the main points you&#039;ve failed to highlight, is that without such clauses, the Promoter can in fact, find themselves in quite a lot of trouble should an individual ever sell their photo to someone else, who then owns the copyright. This saves them the overhead and headache with having to deal with legal issues when there should be none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the main points you&#8217;ve failed to highlight, is that without such clauses, the Promoter can in fact, find themselves in quite a lot of trouble should an individual ever sell their photo to someone else, who then owns the copyright. This saves them the overhead and headache with having to deal with legal issues when there should be none.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Griffin</title>
		<link>http://gavinblue.com/blog/archives/736/comment-page-1#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 22:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Gavin, it seems to me that they were trying to get away with it until someone read the small print. It&#039;s happened here in the West with Tourism WA more than once that a tender for professional work is announced and has the same small print included - I can&#039;t see many professionals wanting to enter into a tender like that. I think they too backed down eventually. I don&#039;t know if you remember back in 2006 that TA received a lot of negative press when they and their agency hired a British Photographer to shoot their latest campaign  - http://www.bandt.com.au/news/48/0c03c648.asp  still has the report online. Well done again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Gavin, it seems to me that they were trying to get away with it until someone read the small print. It&#8217;s happened here in the West with Tourism WA more than once that a tender for professional work is announced and has the same small print included &#8211; I can&#8217;t see many professionals wanting to enter into a tender like that. I think they too backed down eventually. I don&#8217;t know if you remember back in 2006 that TA received a lot of negative press when they and their agency hired a British Photographer to shoot their latest campaign  &#8211; <a href="http://www.bandt.com.au/news/48/0c03c648.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.bandt.com.au/news/48/0c03c648.asp</a>  still has the report online. Well done again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://gavinblue.com/blog/archives/736/comment-page-1#comment-648</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Gavin , a win for everyone, but the win was fully down to you. Thanks again Colin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gavin , a win for everyone, but the win was fully down to you. Thanks again Colin</p>
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